Classical Tailgating

Tom Payne gives the big contest a Classics spin over at ESPN:

Here’s a brief excerpt:

The ancient Greeks set the precedent. Admittedly, a mini-season of tragic plays in the fifth century BC didn’t attracted 153 million viewers, but we know that it mattered. The Athenians crammed as many as 20,000 viewers into their outdoor theatre, an assembly unmatched in those days by anything other than warfare, the scholar Simon Goldhill likes to point out. Instead of the countless hours of football pregame shows, there was the parade and sacrifice to the god of wine, Dionysus — a sign that the Athenian populace was about to binge. (Think beer, chicken wings and pizza).

… proving, of course, that the Greeks invented tailgating …


Latin Threatened at UMaine!!

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Not sure how I missed any previous coverage of this … from the Maine Campus:

A Jan. 24 letter from University of Maine President Robert Kennedy to Faculty Senate President Michael Grillo indicates that three majors — Latin, German and women’s studies — are a step closer to the chopping block.

In response, fourth-year Latin and history student Jeremy Swist, with the help of faculty members, has circulated and submitted to administrators a 674-signature petition urging the university to “preserve a commitment to the liberal arts by maintaining full faculty positions in the Classics and courses in Latin and Greek grammar, literature and culture from the introductory to the 400-level.”

The petition features influential signees, including former UMaine President Peter Hoff, former Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap, Yale University ancient history professor Donald Kagan, British classical scholar Peter Green and Irish classicist and philosopher John M. Dillon. It also features the signatures of a number of UMaine professors and students, as well as from individuals in Asia and Europe.

“Basically, it’s just a network of history professors, classics professors, [people from] various departments, well-wishers — a lot of connections,” Swist said.

On the petition, Dillon called the situation at UMaine “a sad descent into barbarism.”

Dean of the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences Jeffrey Hecker said the wording of the petition could be somewhat misleading, directing signees to make untrue assumptions about the situation.

“There are some misconceptions there. We don’t have a department of classics,” Hecker said. “We have a single faculty member in our budget for teaching classics. We offer a Latin major and we offer courses in classics and offer classes in Greek.”

Hecker said the notable scholars on the list make him take the petition “very seriously,” but the misconceptions in the letter and the current budgetary situation override their pleas.

“I’m supportive of the spirit of the letter, but no university, at least I don’t think a university, would respond to a group of outsiders by making a commitment to whether people would be hired or not hired,” Hecker said. “That’s just not a reasonable way to run the place.”

Last semester, the faculty senate passed a resolution to support recommendations made by the four-person Program Creation and Reorganization Review Committee to continue with Kennedy’s suggestions to suspend bachelor’s degree programs in theater, forest ecosystem science, wood science and technology, and aquaculture made in April 2010.

However, the PCRRC also supported a one-year delay of April’s final recommendations by Kennedy to suspend majors in German, Latin and women’s studies.

“Unfortunately, I cannot endorse the PCRRC recommendations with respect to the suspension proposals relative to German, Latin and women’s studies,” Kennedy wrote to Grillo. “I believe that the decision I reached last spring at the conclusion of the university’s inclusive, comprehensive review process, although painful, is the correct decision under our current circumstances.”

Those involved directly with the Latin and classics fields are wondering how a major with one administering faculty member, Associate Professor of Classical Language and Literature Tina Passman, and a mere six degree students would save enough money to warrant the axe.

“I just think it’s a utilitarian outlook that doesn’t see the immediate benefit of these academic languages — German and Latin,” Swist said. “It’s the point of view that these disciplines won’t earn you money upon graduation. You don’t go to college to earn money. You go to college to become a well-rounded citizen and develop your intellectual capacity.”

Hecker said the decision to eliminate the major was strictly based on low enrollment and student retention. There are currently six students majoring in Latin at UMaine. In the last six years, Hecker said, there have been anywhere from zero to six students seeking majors in that field.

Only one student in the last five years, he said, earned a Latin degree. Lower-level courses, he said, have “reasonable enrollment” and are viable options to be kept.

“In essence, by retaining the major, we are committing Dr. Passman’s time to do that in the future. When I looked at it, it’s very hard to justify that resource for such a small number of students,” Hecker said.

Passman, reached Friday, said she has been the only person teaching Latin on campus for 25 years, “except for an adjunct or two.”

She said she does not understand why Kennedy would move to suspend the major now, as she has tenure and will not be asked to stop teaching even upper-level Latin courses due to the retention of a Latin minor.

“Why doesn’t he just wait until I retire?” she said. “I’m tenured and I’m going to be teaching Latin until all the current students receive their degrees. … The minor will necessitate that many of the same courses be available for students.”

“There’s not one cent that is saved — not one cent — by eliminating the Latin major,” Passman continued.

Passman said Hecker has been very supportive throughout the process and that he does not want to burden her with teaching Latin, as she also teaches classics and will serve as the director of the minor in peace and reconciliation studies next semester.

“The short-term savings are very small,” Hecker said in response to cost-savings concerns. “In the long-term, though, if we in fact move toward suspending it now … professor Passman will at some point retire or take a position somewhere else and we can then make our hard decisions within that sort of framework.”

Jay Bregman, a professor of ancient, intellectual and jazz history, echoed Passman’s sentiments about cost-savings and was strong in opposition of Kennedy.

“There’s one professor here — Tina Passman. That’s the major. It costs nothing … as a major. [Kennedy] just basically wants to do it because he’s basically a perverse S.O.B. who seems to have a hang-up about it,” Bregman said. “This guy is bad news.”

In 2001, Bregman said, Kennedy wanted to eliminate German and Latin to much opposition from faculty. Phi Beta Kappa, the history honors society, threatened to leave because of a bylaw within its national guidelines at the time that said any university with a chapter had to have a Latin major, he said.

“He was stomped,” Bregman, a 35-year veteran of UMaine, said. “Then, he got to be president. Because, basically, what this character does is find ways to amass power.”

Bregman called Kennedy “by far the worst president I’ve ever seen at this university by a mile.” He also said the president has moved the university in the direction of a technical school.

In the petition, James Warhola, a professor of political science, wrote it is “simply not acceptable for a state university to lack courses in the classical languages of Greek and Latin. The University of Maine is just that — a university, not a technical-vocational school.”

Michael Palmer, also a professor of political science who teaches political philosophy, wrote that until now, he has “never seen liberal education held [in] such low repute” at UMaine.

Bergman said the effects of losing the Latin program at UMaine could have a devastating impact on state education.

“It has been an old prophecy that this was going to happen,” he said. “But when it happens in a state like Maine, the place can really get hurt. It’s a small school.”

Passman said there are approximately 60 high school Latin programs in the state. She said she would continue to work with these programs and deliver her classes online, a process made easier as she converted her curriculum into an electronic format in the late 1990s.

“Nothing has changed except for the fact that we won’t have a major at the flagship institution,” she said. “It also means that anyone who wants to be a Latin teacher in this state will have to go elsewhere.”

Kennedy, through UMaine spokesman Joe Carr, declined a request for comment, citing time constraints.

Check out the original article for links to the letter and the petition …

n.b. If your program is in peril, please send details etc. to rogueclassicism so we can make the Classics community aware (800+ folks read rc on any given day) …

A Trireme in Hudson Bay ???

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There are various versions of this one bouncing around, but my innate Canadianess almost forces me to use this version from Kathimerini:

Trireme in New York City Inc, a US-based group of history buffs, is trying to raise the $3 million it will take to get an ancient Greek warship sailing in Hudson Bay for the 2012 tall ships festival on July 4, the Wall Street Journal reported.

A replica of a trireme — a galley deployed by the Greeks in the Persian War in 480 BC among other Mediterranean armies — already exists in Greece.

The Olympias was constructed by the Greek Navy in 1987, but it hasn’t been sailed since 1993, when it was taken to London. The Olympias also carried the Olympic flame prior to the 2004 Athens Games.

The replica of the 5th century BC vessel has 170 oars and is the fastest human-powered vessel on the planet.

Trireme in New York City Inc hope that they will be able to recruit the 170 oarsmen or oarswomen needed to propell the vessel, to return the Olympias to sea-worthy condition and to carry out the necessary repairs and trial runs before the ship is transported to New York head of the 2012 tall ship regatta.

According to the American group’s website, it has already received approval from the Greek Navy for the project and is in talks with the Seaport Museum in New York to dock the ship for a temporary exhibition on Athenian maritime history, featuring artifacts and items on loan from the Greek government.

The company is headed by Markos Marinakis of Marinakis Chartering, Ford Weiskittel of the Trireme Trust USA, Dr George Tsioulias of the Hellenic Medical Society of New York, Edward Kelly, Maritime Associate of the Port of NY and NJ, Joseph Hughes, Vincent Solarino and George Tsimis of the Shipowners Claims Bureau, and Charles Hirschler also of Trireme Trust USA.

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Of course they probably meant the Hudson River, although it would be fun to see the looks on the faces of the polar bears when a trireme rows past them … in any event the coverage in the Wall Street Journal was much better … a couple of excerpts:

For centuries, scholars have squabbled over the design of the ship, which was crucial to defeating the Persians in the Battle of Salamis in 480 B.C., part of a wider war that included the fight at Thermopylae dramatized in the film “300.”

But a wreck of a trireme—a nimble vessel tipped with a bronze battering ram—has never been found. Classicists have had to piece together clues about its design from vase images, carved reliefs and bad jokes in ancient plays, generating competing theories about its size, structure and speed.

“The trireme is actually one of the oldest puzzles in classical scholarship,” says Boris Rankov, a professor of ancient history at Royal Holloway, University of London. “These were ships that enabled Athens to maintain the empire and create democracy.”

In the 1980s, a Cambridge classicist and the chief naval architect for Britain’s Ministry of Defense pooled their knowledge to build a full-scale model of a possible structure for the trireme. Construction was funded by the Greek government. The ship was around 120 feet long, weighed 55,000 pounds and relied on an additional 33,000 pounds of crew for ballast.

Powered by 170 rowers, the Olympias did five sea trials in Greece between 1987 and 1994, with a stop in London. Says Mr. Weiskittel, who is executive director of Trireme Trust USA: “It’s like a time machine.”

But the ship hasn’t stood the test of modern time. It is currently unfit for sea travel and is on display in a naval museum in Athens.


It won’t be easy. The ship needs about $275,000 in repairs. It will have to be carried to the U.S. aboard a freighter. Rowers must be recruited.

Scholars say it will be worth it. New trials will improve knowledge of the speed and agility of the ships, generating data that can be used to develop computer models of ancient battles.

Trireme fans also hope to overcome popular misconceptions about the ships. “Forget about ‘Ben-Hur’ and the shackles and the guy with the whip,” says Mr. Hirschler, who participated in several of the ship’s voyages and keeps a 13-foot, 10-inch oar strapped to the staircase well in his Manhattan residence.

Instead, he says, imagine a flutist or piper serenading 170 mostly free men to keep their strokes in rhythm.

A “trierarch” oversaw the ship and funded the voyage. “He is the Steinbrenner of the deal,” says Mr. Hirschler, who notes that in ancient times, the trierarch would seek to poach better rowers through an active free-agent system. “The Athenians rapidly became the Yankees,” he says.

Controversy still surrounds the design of the ships. The word trireme comes from three and “remus,” meaning oar. But “how these oars were arranged was the big puzzle,” says Mr. Weiskittel. “Three what? Three levels? Three men to an oar? Something else entirely?”

Trireme fans can be an impassioned bunch. In 1975, an article in the The Times of London suggested triremes had been powered primarily by sails. Others vehemently disagreed, setting off one of the longest letter-writing exchanges in the newspaper’s history, as engineers, rowers, and classicists poured in their opinions, arguing over possible speeds and the number of levels in the ship.

The debate continues. This month, John Hale, director of liberal studies at the University of Louisville and himself a rower, presented a paper to the Archaeological Institute of America, arguing the Olympias is “quite different” from the triremes of ancient Greece.

Based on his interpretation of evidence, he says the classical ship had only a single mast (the Olympias has two), lighter construction and possibly oars of different lengths.

Despite what he considers its flaws, the reconstruction “is a great achievement,” Mr. Hale says. He first encountered the Olympias when it was no more than a section of a ship erected on the lawn of its creator, Cambridge classicist John Morrison. “The oars were pulled through water in a circular plastic swimming pool,” he says.

The ship “has had a major impact on the study of Greek history,” Mr. Hale says.

Barry Strauss, chairman of the history department at Cornell University, agrees. He has visited the trireme several times for his research—and found it “hot and cramped” and “stinky.” He is also a rower, and would jump at the opportunity to join the crew.

“If they gave me the chance to do it,” he says, “I wouldn’t miss it for anything.”

Total cost of the project is about $3 million, when an associated exhibit and conference are worked into it.

UPDATE (a short while later):


d.m. Richard M. Krill

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From the Toledo Blade:

Richard M. Krill, 72, a longtime professor of the classics and a chairman of the department of foreign languages at the University of Toledo who taught Latin to high school students after his retirement, died Jan. 15.

Mr. Krill of Toledo died at Sunset House of corticobasal degeneration, a progressive neurological disorder, said Mary Louise Krill, his wife of 47 years.

Mr. Krill’s university classes in the classics and humanities were extremely popular among students, said Karen Havens, a former student of Mr. Krill who herself taught the overflow classes of UT students who were shut out of his lectures.

“His standards were high,” said Ms. Havens, who went on to teach Latin and other courses at Start High School and St. Ursula Academy. “He was a fine teacher. He was very knowledgeable and tireless.”

Mr. Krill was born March 29, 1938, in Akron to Carl and Helen Krill. He received his undergraduate and graduate degrees from John Carroll University in Cleveland and his doctorate from St. Louis University in St. Louis, where he met his future wife.

He taught at universities in Syracuse, N.Y., and Columbia, Mo., before joining the University of Toledo in 1968 as a professor of classics and humanities. He retired from UT in 1999 after more than 30 years.

During his tenure at UT, he served as chairman of the department of foreign languages.

“He taught a couple of very popular courses in mythology and classic humanities,” Ms. Havens said.

Among his accomplishments at UT was founding Foreign Language Day that brought high school students to campus for competitions, said his wife, Mary Louise.

While encouraging high school students to study other languages, he also worked on the university level to broaden language skills of students.

“The critical thing he was able to do was to make foreign languages mandatory for graduation” at the University of Toledo, Mrs. Krill said.

Charles Terbille, a teaching associate who also worked in the research library, said Mr. Krill was well-known for his parties that drew on a wide spectrum of people, from the university and outside.

“Part of the art of hosting a party was inviting all of these interesting people,” Mr. Terbille said. “You can image the conversations that were going on.”

Mr. Krill, who sang in the choir at Gesu Catholic Church, arranged to have the choir sing Christmas carols at one of his gatherings, Mr. Terbille said.

Mr. Krill wrote about the Latin and Greek origins of English words. His book Greek and Latin in English Today was published in 1990 and is still available. His Forty Fabulous Fables of Aesop was published in 1982.

He served offices with the Archaeological Institute of America and other professional organizations involved in the study of classical Roman and Greek culture. He was active in the Ohio Classical Conference, an association of university and high school teachers of Latin.

He was recipient of numerous grants to assist in his research and studies, his wife said, but he never participated in an archaeological dig.

Along with his professional interests, he was deeply involved in his family life, said his daughter, Mimi Nichols.

“He always brought a lot of fun into our lives,” Ms. Nichols said. “

He took his family on overseas trips and his knowledge of Greece and Italy came in handy, Ms. Nichols said.

“I didn’t have to do too much research because we had our own tour guide,” she said.

As chairman of the foreign language department, he was involved in UT’s long-running German exchange between the University of Toledo and Georg Buchner Gymnasium in Darmstadt, Germany.

“We had at least three exchange students ourselves and we were able to go over to Darmstadt and visit with our former students,” Ms. Nichols said.

Even as chairman of the foreign languages department, he continued teaching at least one class a semester, said his wife.

After he retired, St. Ursula asked him to help teach Latin when the school was unable to find a teacher, Mrs. Krill said. At St. John’s Jesuit he taught honors students and helped them obtain scholarships to pursue studies in the classics and humanities.

After retirement, he also helped revive UT’s Foreign Language Day, which had lapsed after he left, Ms. Havens said.

“He was a very gentle man. He was never cross or impatient,” Ms. Havens said. “He exemplifies the Latin word humanitas, which means the best qualities of a human being.”

Mr. Krill is survived by his wife, Mary Louise Krill, daughters Gina Carter, Michelle Morris, and Mimi Nichols, brothers Carl Krill, Joseph Krill, and Kevin Krill, and sisters Mary Sawan and Roberta Hawkins, and 12 grandchildren.


This Day in Ancient History: pridie kalendas februarias

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pridie kalendas februarias

  • 1000 B.C. — temple of Hercules at Tyre completed (according to one ‘traditional’ reckoning)
  • 817 B.C. — death of Anchises (according to the same reckoning)
  • 36 B.C. — birth of Antonia (“Minor”), daughter of Marcus Antonius and Octavia and future mother of hope-to-be-emperor Germanicus and emperor-to-be Claudius
  • c. 250 A.D. — martyrdom of Metras/Metranus in Alexandria
  • c. 250 A.D. — martyrdom of Saturninus, Thrysus, and Victor in Alexandria

UCL 2011 Greek Play: Lysistrata

Seen on the Classicists list (please direct any queries to the folks mentioned in the item and not to rogueclassicism):

The Department of Greek and Latin at University College, London, is delighted to invite you to our 2011 Greek play, Aristophanes’ Lysistrata, at the UCL Bloomsbury Theatre. The play will run from Tuesday 8th – Thursday 10th February with performances at 7.30 each evening, and a matinee at 2.30 on the Wednesday and Thursday. Bookings for the play can be made via the Bloomsbury Theatre website or box office ( or phone 020 7388 8822).

Our production of Lysistrata draws on all of the traditions of Greek comedy, especially its vigorous engagement with crucial political and social issues. Consequently, we are placing it in an innovative new setting – the Napoleonic Wars, and, more specifically, the Peninsular War. This is a unique interpretation of one of Aristophanes’ greatest works, and will provide a platform to promote discussion of ancient Greek comedy and its performance in modern times.

To complement the production, we are also pleased to advertise the following public talks by experts in ancient drama and its reception. Thanks to the generous support of the Institute for Classical Studies, all events are free of charge and open to all. At the time of writing we have spaces available for all the talks. Pre-booking for the talks is not compulsory, but if you are hoping to bring a large group it would be helpful if you could let us know, by emailing l.swift AT directly. For more details of the play and public engagement programme, please see our website at

Tuesday 8th February: 6:15pm, “How comedy discovered girls”. Dr Nick Lowe, Royal Holloway, University of London. Christopher Ingold Auditorium, 20 Gordon St

Wednesday 9th February: 1pm, “Lysistrata, wife, priestess, goddess”. Professor Edith Hall, Royal Holloway, University of London. Christopher Ingold Auditorium, 20 Gordon Street.

Thursday 10th February: 6pm, Public Talk: “Modern Lysistratas”. Dr Fiona Macintosh, University of Oxford. Lecture Theatre, Institute of Archaeology, Gordon Square.