The Conversation: Avoid bad breath, don’t pick partners when drunk: ancient dating tips to find modern love

Henryk Siemiradzki via Wikimedia Commons

Konstantine Panegyres, The University of Western Australia

To love and be loved is something most people want in their lives.

In the modern world, we often see stories about the difficulties of finding love and the trials of dating and marriage. Sometimes, the person we love doesn’t love us. Sometimes, we don’t love the person who loves us.

Ancient Greeks and Romans also had a lot to say about this subject. In fact, most of the issues people face today in their search for love are already mentioned in ancient Greek and Roman literature.

So, what did they say? And is the advice they put forward still relevant for modern people?

Advice for finding a lover

The Roman poet Ovid (43BCE–17CE) wrote a poem called The Art of Love (Ars Amatoria). In it, he offered advice for those who are still single.

First, Ovid says, you should make an effort to find someone you’re interested in. Your lover “will not come floating down to you through the tenuous air, she must be sought”.

As suitable places to find a lover, Ovid recommends walking in porticos and gardens, attending the theatre, or (surprisingly enough) lingering near law courts.

You need to catch someone’s eye and then invent an excuse to talk with them, he says.

Seek your lover in the daytime, says Ovid. Be careful of the night. You won’t choose the right person if you’re drunk. And you can’t see their face properly if it’s too dark – they might be uglier than you think.

Second, Ovid says you need to look presentable. Make sure your clothes are clean and you have a good haircut. Moreover, keep yourself groomed properly at all times:

Do not let your nails project, and let them be free of dirt; nor let any hair be in the hollow of your nostrils. Let not the breath of your mouth be sour and unpleasing.

Ovid’s The Art of Love may be regarded as a kind of love manual. But aside from making personal efforts to find a lover, people could also use matchmakers.

However, matchmaking was a difficult process. Sometimes matchmakers didn’t tell the truth about the situations of the parties involved. So the Athenian writer Xenophon (430–353 BCE) says people were sometimes “victims of deception” in the matchmaking process.

What if you’re not in love?

The ancients recognised that not being in love can be a problem. They thought it bad for your mental and physical health, but also for society more broadly.

For example, the Roman writer Claudius Aelian (2nd–3rd century CE) in his Historical Miscellany says soldiers who are in love will fight better than soldiers who are not in love:

In the heat of battle when war brings men into combat, a man who is not in love could not match one who is. The man untouched by love avoids and runs away from the man who loves, as if he were an outsider uninitiated into the god’s rites, and his bravery depends on his character and physical strength.

According to Aelian, the Spartans had a punishment for men who did not fall in love:

Any man of good appearance and character who did not fall in love with someone well-bred was also fined, because despite his excellence he did not love anyone […] lovers’ affection for their beloved has a remarkable power of stimulating the virtues.

So, when two people are in love, they can inspire each other and bring out the best in one another. Being in love can help a person become better and achieve more.

Fighting for and keeping a lover

If we are lucky, the person we love will also love us back, and we won’t have any love rivals.

But what happens when the person we love is also loved by someone else? We may need to put in more effort to win the affection of that person, but sometimes this brings us into conflicts.

For example, the Roman orator and politician Marcus Tullius Cicero (106–43 BCE), in his On the Orator, tells how Gaius Memmius, Roman tribune of the year 111 BCE, apparently took a bite out of his love rival’s arm, “when he had a quarrel with him at Tarracina over a girlfriend”.

Some ways to keep one’s lover interested that are mentioned in ancient sources include showing off one’s wealth.

For example, in one of the plays of the poet Alexis (375–275 BCE) a young man who is in love puts on a large banquet to impress his girlfriend with a display of wealth. Engagements were at that time sometimes cancelled if it turned out the husband was too poor.

Of course, things did not always work out, and people had grievances against former lovers. One particularly famous invective was from the poet Martial (38–104 CE) to a woman called Manneia:

Manneia, your little dog licks your face and lips. Small wonder that a dog likes eating dung!

Timeless concerns

Today, we often see debates about whether it’s better to stay single or get into a relationship.

The same goes for antiquity. In the 4th-century BCE play Arrephoros or The Pipe Girl by poet Menander, one character says:

If you’ve got any sense, you won’t get married […] I’m married myself – which is why I’m advising you not to do it.

Others lamented that they missed their opportunity for love. So the poet Pindar (6th–5th century BCE) wrote a poem regretting that he could not make the much younger Theoxenus his boyfriend:

You should have picked love’s flowers at the right time, my heart, when you were young. But as for the sparkling rays from Theoxenus’ eyes, whoever looks on them and is not roiled with longing has a black heart forged with cold fire out of steel or iron.

Clearly, finding a lover was as difficult then as it is now.The Conversation

Konstantine Panegyres, Lecturer in Classics and Ancient History, The University of Western Australia

This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article.

ROGUECLASSICIST’S BULLETIN ~ July 4, 2025

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https://paleojudaica.blogspot.com/2025/07/update-on-tomb-of-nahum-in-iraq.html

AWOL – The Ancient World Online: Roman Art at the Art Institute of Chicago
https://ancientworldonline.blogspot.com/2025/07/roman-art-at-art-institute-of-chicago.html

AWOL – The Ancient World Online: Ancient Egyptian Art at the Art Institute of Chicago
https://ancientworldonline.blogspot.com/2025/07/ancient-egyptian-art-at-art-institute.html

AWOL – The Ancient World Online: Lexicon Iconographicum Mythologiae Classicae (LIMC): LIMC-France : les bases de données
https://ancientworldonline.blogspot.com/2012/05/limc-database-online.html

AWOL – The Ancient World Online: Corrispondenze archeologiche fra Thomas Ashby e Giuseppe Lugli. La testimonianza inedita della documentazione d’archivio
https://ancientworldonline.blogspot.com/2025/07/corrispondenze-archeologiche-fra-thomas.html

AWOL – The Ancient World Online: Assur 2024: Continuing the excavations in the New Town and other research across the site
https://ancientworldonline.blogspot.com/2025/07/assur-2024-continuing-excavations-in.html

AWOL – The Ancient World Online: Punctuation, Iota Adscript, and Nu-movable in Ancient Literary Bookrolls
https://ancientworldonline.blogspot.com/2025/07/punctuation-iota-adscript-and-nu.html

AWOL – The Ancient World Online: The Late Roman Settlement of Umm al-Dabadib: A Remote Investigation
https://ancientworldonline.blogspot.com/2025/07/the-late-roman-settlement-of-umm-al.html

Artwashing the Cyclades: The Leonard N. Stern Collection at the Metropolitan Museum of Art – Bryn Mawr Classical Review
https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2025/2025.07.02/

In Memoriam: Floyd L. Moreland | CUNY Graduate Center
https://www.gc.cuny.edu/news/memoriam-floyd-l-moreland

Greek University Establishes Center for Alexander the Great Studies – GreekReporter.com
https://greekreporter.com/2025/07/02/greek-university-center-alexander-the-great-studies/
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(5) The Odyssey – Book 1 Reading – CSMFHT Writes
https://csmfht.substack.com/p/the-odyssey-book-1-reading?utm_source=podcast-email%2Csubstack&publication_id=1211085&post_id=167348664&utm_campaign=email-play-on-substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=play_card_post_title&r=q7tlq&triedRedirect=true
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NOTANDA
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Inscriptions on Paper (call for topics and papers) – Current EpigraphyCurrent Epigraphy

Inscriptions on Paper (call for topics and papers)

A new research group focusing on the cult of Roman Mithras (2025-2030) | Roman religion

A new research group focusing on the cult of Roman Mithras (2025-2030)

ROGUECLASSICIST’S BULLETIN ~ July 1, 2025

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Limescale deposits reveal how ancient Arles adapted its aqueducts
https://phys.org/news/2025-07-limescale-deposits-reveal-ancient-arles.html

Turkey hands over Babylonian and Akkadian clay tablets to Iraq | The Jerusalem Post
https://www.jpost.com/archaeology/article-859584

[AI?]Cypro-Minoan script on Tel Dor anchor reveals 11th-c. trade routes | The Jerusalem Post
https://www.jpost.com/archaeology/article-859581

Three Tombs with False Doors, Offering Tables, and Infant Remains Discovered in the Qubbet el-Hawa Necropolis in Aswan

Three Tombs with False Doors, Offering Tables, and Infant Remains Discovered in the Qubbet el-Hawa Necropolis in Aswan

22 Large Blocks of the Lighthouse of Alexandria Retrieved from the Seafloor, Including Its Door Lintels

22 Large Blocks of the Lighthouse of Alexandria Retrieved from the Seafloor, Including Its Door Lintels

The First Expedition to Lachish: A Colonial Archaeology Story – Archaeology – Haaretz.com
https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/2025-07-01/ty-article/the-first-expedition-to-lachish-a-colonial-archaeology-story/00000197-c51b-d2f9-a3f7-c7df1aff0000

Exceptional Intact Etruscan Rock-Cut Tomb Discovered in Italy’s San Giuliano Necropolis – Arkeonews
https://arkeonews.net/exceptional-intact-etruscan-rock-cut-tomb-discovered-in-italys-san-giuliano-necropolis/

Outrage in Türkiye: 3,000-Year-Old Unesco Tomb in Phrygian Valley Turned Into Café – Arkeonews
https://arkeonews.net/outrage-in-turkiye-3000-year-old-unescotomb-in-phrygian-valley-turned-into-cafe/

Library of Stratonikeia – ArtDog Istanbul

Library of Stratonikeia

Ancient Greek Agora and Shops Discovered at Hyllarima in Turkey – GreekReporter.com
https://greekreporter.com/2025/07/01/ancient-greek-agora-shops-hyllarima-turkey/

Archaeologists uncover coin moulds linked to ancient Greek king Apollodotus 2 – Hindustan Times
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/pune-news/archaeologists-uncover-coin-moulds-linked-to-ancient-greek-king-apollodotus-2-101751310608683.html

[AI?]Cosmic-ray muons map Jeremiah’s cistern in City of David for first time | The Jerusalem Post
https://www.jpost.com/archaeology/article-859582

Paris exhibit re-frames Cleopatra’s legacy as Egypt’s powerful last queen | | AW
https://thearabweekly.com/paris-exhibit-re-frames-cleopatras-legacy-egypts-powerful-last-queen

‘Puzzling’ bronze discs adorned with lion heads discovered in Roman-era grave | Live Science
https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/romans/puzzling-bronze-discs-adorned-with-lion-heads-discovered-in-roman-era-grave

‘It comes with the territory’: How Israel’s archaeologists legitimize annexation
https://www.972mag.com/israel-archaeology-annexation-rafi-greenberg/

How Plato’s grave was finally found | Sky HISTORY TV Channel
https://www.history.co.uk/articles/how-platos-grave-was-found

On Long-Suffering Odysseus: Why Christians Should Read Classics Written Before Jesus – Christ and Pop Culture

On Long-Suffering Odysseus: Why Christians Should Read Classics Written Before Jesus

(5) The Faulty Foundation of Modern Stoicism – by Doug Bates
https://ataraxiaorbust.substack.com/p/the-faulty-foundation-of-modern-stoicism?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=2723270&post_id=167260385&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=q7tlq&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

125 years of Classics at Birmingham – University of Birmingham
https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/news/2025/125-years-of-classics-at-birmingham

At MANN, a new exhibit tells the story of Pompeii’s domus and furnishings
https://www.finestresullarte.info/en/museums/at-mann-a-new-exhibit-tells-the-story-of-pompeii-s-domus-and-furnishings

PaleoJudaica.com: Biblical Studies Carnival #227
https://paleojudaica.blogspot.com/2025/07/biblical-studies-carnival-227.html

PaleoJudaica.com: Is the Moabite Stone a forgery?
https://paleojudaica.blogspot.com/2025/07/is-moabite-stone-forgery.html

(5) Aeneid V.1-103 – by publius vergilius maro – Aeneid Daily
https://aeneiddaily.substack.com/p/aeneid-v1-103-3ab?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1678986&post_id=167018980&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=q7tlq&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

June Reading Notes – Noodlings

June Reading Notes

Poëzie: Keizer Caligula – Mainzer Beobachter

Poëzie: Keizer Caligula

Isthmia and Rubble | Archaeology of the Mediterranean World

Isthmia and Rubble

June 2025 in Turkish archaeology | Turkish Archaeological News
https://turkisharchaeonews.net/article/june-2025-turkish-archaeology

Volumes 9 and 10 of The Bulletin of the Bezan Club | Variant Readings

Volumes 9 and 10 of The Bulletin of the Bezan Club

AWOL – The Ancient World Online: Achilles Statius Lusitanus (1524–1581): New Research and Perspectives on the Fifth Centenary of His Birth
https://ancientworldonline.blogspot.com/2025/06/achilles-statius-lusitanus-15241581-new.html

Between Sozopol and Talasakra Unknown archeology of the Sozopol Bay and its western hinterland | Spartokos read

Between Sozopol and Talasakra Unknown archaeology of the Sozopol Bay and its western hinterland


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Podcast Season 4, Episode 9: Critical Futures for Ancient Studies with with Mathura Umachandran – Peopling the Past

Podcast Season 4, Episode 9: Critical Futures for Ancient Studies with with Mathura Umachandran

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(1337) MC Shorts–Wall Decor–IV Pompeian Styles – YouTube

(1337) Alexander the Great: Rise of a Military Genius – YouTube

(1340) Ancient Rome’s Carrara Marble: Quarry to Monuments – YouTube

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Two postdoctoral fellowships (fixed-term contract) in the research project Locally Crafted Empires (LoCiS), School of Culture and Society, Aarhus University – Vacancy at Aarhus University
https://international.au.dk/about/profile/vacant-positions/job/two-postdoctoral-fellowships-fixed-term-contract-in-the-research-project-locally-crafted-empires-locis-school-of-culture-and-society-aarhus-university