Yet Another Retrial of Socrates

From Business Insider:

Despite the recent spate of gun violence to grip the city, some of Chicago’s top attorneys plan to spend their time arguing a 2,400-year-old free speech case.

Dan Webb of Winston and Strawn and Robert Clifford, the former chair of the American Bar Association Section of Litigation will represent Socrates Jan. 31 in the Windy City while former U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald will represent the city of Athens, Greece, The ABA Journal reported Wednesday.

The Chicago lawyers are taking a stab at the trial and re-trying the case as part of a fundraiser for the National Hellenic Museum.

Socrates, a famed philosopher, was tried and executed in Athens in 399 B.C.E. after city leaders became upset with his teachings and the effect they were having on society, according to the University of Missouri Kansas City.

Officially, Socrates was charged with refusing to recognize the gods, introducing new divinities, and corrupting the youth.

Back in 2009, Cambridge University Professor Paul Cartledge decided the trial was legally justified and Socrates was guilty of the charges, The Telegraph reported at the time.

Judge Richard Posner, most famous for his ongoing criticism of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, will preside over the trial, according to the Chicago Reader.

If you want to attend: Trial of Socrates

As can be seen in the article, this sort of thing has been done before. Here’s our previous coverage of such events:

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A Return to Consularity?

A somewhat strange bit of synchonicity or something like it has been going on over the past few weeks in regards to assorted politicos/people in power resorting to some sort of ‘consul’ type form of leadership in which two people share power. The example was sent to us via amicus noster John McMahon (tips of the pileus ensue, of course)  and described the situation which just went into effect in New York state. Here’s a taste of the media coverage:

Hopefully, they won’t become New York State’s version of Julius Caesar and Marcus Calpurnius Bibulus.

Come Jan. 1, Sens. Dean G. Skelos, a Republican from Long Island, and Jeffrey D. Klein, a Democrat from the Bronx, will embark on dual leadership to run the State Senate, the first time anything like that has been attempted in New York.

The two senators would do well to heed the lessons from Caesar and Bibulus during their time as Roman consuls – or co-leaders – in 59 B.C.

Let’s just say it didn’t go well, at least for Bibulus. In one of the nastier disputes with Caesar and his backers, Bibulus found himself beaten up and covered in feces by an angry crowd. Bibulus didn’t even complete his one-year term as consul, and he later went on to oppose Caesar in a civil war.

Albany may not be ancient Rome, and Skelos and Klein, unlike Caesar and Bibulus, insist they are allies. But in the days since Skelos and Klein hatched their deal, many experts across the country have been scratching their heads about the plan to keep Republicans in partial control of the Senate by sharing power with five breakaway Democrats.

Their agreement stipulates that Skelos will hold the title of temporary president of the Senate for 14 days and then give the title over to Klein for 14 days. And then back and forth it will go all next year.

“I don’t know how New York State got to the place it is,” said Ronald J. Mellor, distinguished professor of history and a Roman history scholar at the University of California at Los Angeles, when told about the power-sharing deal Skelos and Klein devised.

New York got to this place because Republicans did not win enough seats last month to keep control of the Senate, so they needed the help of the Klein-led Independent Democratic Conference to prevent Democrats from seizing control.

Experts say coalition governments – in other states, over the decades, or places such as Israel and Italy – have occurred. But they can often be forced, when there is a tie between Democrats and Republicans in a legislative body. That is not the case here. And dual leaderships are not unique.

But a coalition government and dual leadership at the same time?

“That’s absolutely unique,” said Timothy B. Storey, an election law analyst at the National Conference of State Legislatures in Denver.

There have been dual leaderships to run an entire government or branch of government, according to scholars of international and United States legislative bodies. Many have come in response to authoritarian rulers, such as Rome’s approach to dual leadership that began in about 500 B.C.

Most, though, don’t last nearly as long as the Rome experiment, and most are merely transitional deals in which one individual, despite the theory of dual leadership, has far more power.

And the notion of switching power every 14 days?

“I’ve never heard of it,” said Ruth Wedgwood, an expert in international law and diplomacy at the Washington-based School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University.

There are some current examples of dual leadership in the world, but they are far-flung and don’t come close to the idea of flipping leadership titles every two weeks.

Kim Lane Scheppele, director of the law and public affairs program at Princeton University’s Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, cited some examples in which opposing political parties are able to check the power of those controlling a government through rotating leadership positions. But most involve areas of domestic spying, she said.

In the German Parliament, she noted, the G10 Committee reviews domestic surveillance matters; the rules mandate that the chairmanship rotate every six months.

In the Hungarian Parliament, membership of the National Security Committee, which reviews domestic security matters, must rotate every 10 months.

Mellor, the UCLA Roman history expert, said the Romans moved to dual-leadership titles – consuls – when an emperor was expelled in 509 B.C. The consuls, who mainly served as chairmen of the Senate, could veto each other’s decisions.

“It was a way of ensuring there not be a tyrannical government. Of course, this made for chaos sometimes,” he noted.

Often, the two consuls would end up being in charge of different functions: one the army in the field, the other the ministerial duties in Rome.

During times of crisis, the two could appoint a dictator who could hold complete power – but generally for no more than six months – over matters such as a military operation.

With some notable exceptions, the dual leadership in Roman times was effective for long periods of time, but chiefly because of the consul structure, which featured one-year term limits, Mellor said. […]

Meanwhile, down the road in Toronto, the mayor thereof (Rob Ford) has all sorts of problems legal-wise and possibly could lose his position. The Daily Brew then mentioned that dual mayorship situation might be in the offing as well:

If Rob Ford loses his appeal to remain mayor of Toronto, what would you think of two co-mayors holding the spot until the 2014 election? That is one of the latest solutions raised at city hall, where rumblings continue about how the city would proceed should Ford be ousted from office sometime in thee new year. […] Coun. Paula Fletcher raised the idea of appointing co-mayors as a way to appease both sides of the split council. […]

… haven’t heard anything more since that piece, however, and I doubt whether anyone in the Canadian media will make the Classical connections. In either case it would be interesting to see how it works in practice … could set a precedent for change of some sort. We’ll monitor developments …

New Year’s Toasting Redux

We haven’t read claims of the Roman origins of toasting — especially that once-common, and spurious, claim about putting a piece of burnt bread in wine to make it taste better  — for a while, but it seems that the latter-day mythologizers persist in wanting to somehow connect toasting to the Romans. The latest is a piece at NPR (for shame) which has a couple of questionable (perhaps) claims:

“There’s a thin line between history and folklore,” says historian Paul Dickson. He should know. He wrote a book about toasting called Toasts: Over 1,500 of the Best Toasts, Sentiments, Blessings and Graces. “But toasting definitely goes back to the ancient world.”

Ulysses drank to the health of Achilles in The Odyssey, he says. And in Rome, drinking to someone’s health was so important that the Senate demanded that all diners drink to their emperor, Augustus, before every meal.

… thin line indeed, and it seems to be crossed here. Near as I can tell, Achilles’ only appearance in the Odyssey is in book 11 and it’s as a shade of the dead. There is no toasting by Odysseus (why is he always Ulysses in US newspapers) … does Achilles appear elsewhere in a toast-worthy situation? As for the drinking to Augustus, I’d love to hear a source for that … so vague as to be meaningless and if thought about for even a few seconds, it makes no sense (enforceable? penalties? What about folks who couldn’t afford wine with their meal? Did it apply to drunks in tabernae?).

If you’re wondering about the ‘burnt toast’ thing:

Amo, Amas, Amat Wild Nothing

This one has been making the rounds as well and I’ve just had a chance to listen … the sound is very 1980s, kind of like Pet Shop Boys meets New Order … half way through, the voice conjugates amare (but pronounces ‘v’ as ‘v’) … still an interesting listen:

… reading though the comments I see folks mentioning Neoplatonism and the like, but I don’t quite see/hear it.